Hello Guardians!

I wanted to take a few minutes and do a quick review of MSV 10man. A lot of you will probably know this stuff already, but whether you are just starting MSV or you’re stuck on a particular boss, you should find this useful. You’ll notice that I covered a lot of this content on the Team Waffle Podcast yesteday, but some of it should be new.

Please note that if I don’t specifically mention a talent, glyph, etc. then you should assume that usage of such things is up to your discretion based on group/personal preference/full moon.
 

Stone Guardians

The Rundown:

  • Trash: Make sure you (or your other tank) pulls the big dog out of the group so you can actually kill the trash. Don’t pull the two big patrolling dogs together.
  • Talents: FS, Incarnation, NV.
  • Glyphs: Maul. Stampeding Roar can be useful as well.
  • Gear: Consistent RPS (Hit/Exp > Crit > Haste).

Encounter Notes:

  • If you start off by tanking 2 dogs, remember to pre-pot (Virmen’s Bite) and use Berserk on the pull for maximum threat and burst Rage.
  • Decide between you and your co-tank who will be calling swaps. Remember you want to swap the dog that is currently petrifying, because that is how you have to do it on heroic.
  • Don’t bother using Savage Defense at all. Use Frenzied Regeneration to heal yourself when you get down to around 50-60%.
  • You likely won’t have any excess Rage, but if you do dump it into Maul when tanking more than 1 dog for the extra cleave damage.
  • I found it helpful to have taunt macros for switching dogs. You may or may not feel the same way.

 

Feng

The Rundown:

  • Trash: Nothing special. Feel free to AoE tank it.
  • Talents: FS, Incarnation, NV.
  • Glyphs: Stampeding Roar.
  • Gear: Consistent RPS (Hit/Exp > Crit > Haste).

Encounter Notes:

  • Use Savage Defense when tanking, Maul when not.
  • I found Shroud of Reversal really hard to use, especially with a DK co-tank when they don’t take damage from Lightning Fist. Probably easier for everyone if you just take Nullification Barrier.
  • There’s no burn phase or DPS buff, so feel free to use Incarnation / NV at the start of the fight.
  • Since Nullificaiton Barrier is a channel, you cannot attack while using it without cancelling the spell. So don’t do that.
  • Use Stampeding Roar to help your raid run from Epicenter and into Arcane Velocity if necessary.
  • You can use Tranquility during Epicenter or Arcane Velocity to help your healers out. Switch in a caster weapon for extra healzzz.

 

Gara’jal

The Rundown:

  • Trash: Trolls! Don’t stand in bombs.
  • Talents: FS, Incarnation, NV/HotW.
  • Glyphs: Anything you want.
  • Gear: Consistent RPS (Hit/Exp > Crit > Haste).

Encounter Notes:

  • Pop your cooldown(s) at the start of the fight. If you go with Heart of the Wild you can get a full duration use off at the start of the fight.
  • Keep Savage Defense up as much as possible while tanking.
  • The Severer of Souls dies stupid easy, so don’t be afraid to hit a couple other spirits while you’re in the spirit realm.
  • Make sure you have Incarnation available for the burn phase since it’s incredibly important to keep SD up as much as possible.

 

Spirit Kings

The Rundown:

  • Trash: Make sure your raid stacks for the lizards.
  • Talents: FS, Incarnation, NV.
  • Glyphs: Anything you want.
  • Gear: Consistent RPS (Hit/Exp > Crit > Haste).

Encounter Notes:

  • Pop your cooldown(s) at the start of the fight. Don’t bother using Savage Defense for Qiang since you will be getting AoE heals anyway. Just dump all of your Rage into Maul.
  • DO NOT EVER USE THRASH DURING MADDENING SHOUT.
  • As a Guardian you don’t care about Cowardice. Just keep attacking the boss.
  • Make liberal use of Skull Bash.
  • Use Savage Defense for Meng, Subetai, and Zian.

 

Elegon

The Rundown:

  • Trash: You can wipe the raid to the trash if you don’t tank it properly. Face the guys that throw stone slabs away from the raid so they don’t get smushed. You can powershift the debuff if necessary. Kite the Wardens by letting them punt you away, and then running until their buff falls off. Turn around, repeat until dead.
  • Talents: WC, Typhoon, Incarnation, UV, NV.
  • Glyphs: Stampeding Roar. Survival Instincts can be useful as well.
  • Gear: Consistent RPS (Hit/Exp > Crit > Haste).

Encounter Notes:

  • Use Barkskin and/or Survival Instincts during a Total Annihilation when you’re at high stacks.
  • Make damn sure you reset your stacks when dragging the Guardian outside the ring.
  • Try and land a Thrash on everything during Draw Power.
  • Wild Charge back to the boss after your spark is dead for maximum uptime/dps.
  • Use Savage Defense when tanking the boss, but use Frenzied Regeneration to recover from a Breath/TA.
  • Spam FR during Draw Power so you don’t have to drop stacks.
  • Get aggro on the Sparks but don’t let them hit you. Use Typhoon / UV to keep them at a distance.
  • Use Tranquility as soon as you can in Phase 3.
  • Make sure you have NV, Incarnation, Potion, and Trinkets available for the burn. There’s no reason to reset your stacks.

 

Will

The Rundown:

  • Trash: You can wipe the raid to the trash if you don’t tank it properly. Face the guys that throw stone slabs away from the raid so they don’t get smushed.
  • Talents: FS, Incarnation, NV.
  • Glyphs: Stampeding Roar. Survival Instincts can be useful as well.
  • Gear: Consistent RPS (Hit/Exp > Crit > Haste).

Encounter Notes:

  • It might be tempting to try and help your raid out with Typhoon and UV. Don’t. You’ll just end up hurting or killing yourself.
  • Dancing is incredibly easy as long as you have Feline Swiftness. Don’t over-run any of them and don’t be afraid to take a second to make sure you’re travelling the right way.
  • Keep Savage Defense up 100% of the time when the boss is meleeing you.
  • Save cooldowns for Titan Gas. Alternate Incarnation and Berserk on Titan Gas phases.
  • Make sure you bind the “extra action button” to something or else you’ll miss Opportunistic Strike every time.
  • If you get caught in a stomp, use Stampeding Roar to give yourself enough speed to not get caught in a slash right afterwards.
  • Get aggro on the Sparks but don’t let them hit you. Use Typhoon / UV to keep them at a distance.
  • Make sure you zoom your camera out pretty far so you can see the boss during DDR phases.

 
What about you? Do you have any tips to share?

15 Comments

  • Elamari says:

    I have a question about Will. Do the attacks from the two bosses follow a pattern or sequence or is it different each time? Also, how do you tell which type of attack they are going to use – a left swipe, right swipe, 360 swipe etc…
    Cheers.

    ~Elamari

    • Buraan says:

      Its not really a pattern, it can be different every time. But to tell which way the dance is going, there is a massive cleave like animation (giant white arc) where he is about to hit. Just move away from that. If there is no arc, then its going to be under him, so move away from the boss.

    • Arielle says:

      The stomp will have like a cloudy visual under his feat.

    • Gameldar says:

      Sunnier had a post up (http://sunniersartofwar.com/blog/2012/07/18/an-early-guide-to-the-will-of-the-emperor-dance/) with pictures etc based on the beta – is this still the same?

      Thanks for putting in comments about the trash Arielle – it’s the one thing I find is always missing from encounter guides etc and often times is a bigger pain than the bosses.

    • Buraan says:

      No need to bother with the stuff in sunnier’s guide for that, there is a HUGE white arc in the air above where the cleave will land, just watch for that and move away. It is really really obvious. I’d take some pictures, maybe if I do lfr later this week.

      –from below, clearly I didn’t reply in the correct place

  • Genzen says:

    I recently started tanking Will, and I have a problem avoiding all the special attacks. I can get the left and right ones just by looking at where the weapon is and running towards it. I can get the center one simply by running ‘through’ him to the other side. The problem I have is the 360 degrees one. It seems the only thing to do is to run away from him, but I never seem to get far enough away. My friend said to stand at max distance, but if I do that, I fear I won’t get ‘through’ him in time to avoid the center one.

    Any advice? Or do I just need to ‘be better’?

    • Arielle says:

      Do you mean the stomp?

    • Buraan says:

      If you run directly away and stay at max range, you should make it through, even if he does the center one. Make sure you have feline swiftness if you’re worried, and use Savage roar (darkflight if worgen) or even sprint, as there’s not much downside to being cat if you need that. I guess you could also use a swiftness pot. But the dance is 100% doable with no speed increases at all, I did it once without unspeccing charge from elegon. Keep in mind that you can just run straight through him for the center one, no going around left/right. Just straight.

    • Genzen says:

      Yes, Arielle, I think I do mean the stomp – it’s the one that hits all 360 degrees, rather than either left, right, or center.

      I guess I can try staying at max-range this week, and see if I can still make it through to his other side when the center one is coming. I do also have Feline Swiftness – I keep that as my default and switch to the others if/when I need them.

  • Buraan says:

    No need to bother with the stuff in sunnier’s guide for that, there is a HUGE white arc in the air above where the cleave will land, just watch for that and move away. It is really really obvious. I’d take some pictures, maybe if I do lfr later this week.

  • Mythdol says:

    Also, FR spam in the spirit world on Gara’jal (when killing your Severer of Souls) gives you more of the buff.

    • Arielle says:

      I never actually knew that – or rather never had a reason to test it. I’ll try it this week!

    • Buraan says:

      Ye, save rage, spam FR, I normally even use enrage whilst down there and don’t use maul or SD (you need to use FR to heal yourself sometimes down there anyway, so may as well get the most from it). I think about 3x 60 rage FR will give you 21% on the buff. You can also NS-> HT if you fancy.

    • Buraan says:

      Also spam Taunt when you’re in the physical world but not tanking, as you get vengeance.

  • Bearforceone says:

    thanks for these great tips, I just started tanking for my guild as off tank for our 2nd raid team, This has been a big help :D

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